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The person who probably had the widest command of all of that in my experience was leon panetta because he was on the budget committee in the house of representatives, which has jurisdiction over, in its way, almost everything. he had worked in the office of management and budget of the entire federal budget. so he had to look into every single thing the government was doing before he walked into that white house. and he was himself a politician elected to office in the congress. he had everything you need. is that kind of just, as a bio, is that what you're looking for and everything off of t...

Because he was on the budget committee in the house of representatives, which has jurisdiction over, in its way, almost everything. he had worked in the office of management and budget of the entire federal budget. so he had to look into every single thing the government was doing before he walked into that white house. and he was himself a politician elected to office in the congress. he had everything you need. is that kind of just, as a bio, is that what you're looking for and everything off of that is a compromise? >> and even more so, you're looking for somebody who is grounded like panet...

Subjects that the white house chief of staff has to be fluent in have just exploded exponentially. the person who probably had the widest command of all of that in my experience was leon panetta because he was on the budget committee in the house of representatives, which has jurisdiction over, in its way, almost everything. he had worked in the office of management and budget of the entire federal budget. so he had to look into every single thing the government was doing before he walked into that white house. and he was himself a politician elected to office in the congress. he had everythin...