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Testing community at the s.a.t. and the act. it is so elaborate, to have connections in all these places. and to find people in all these places that would be willing to take bribes. it seems like, inevitably, the released boy they stumbled upon this was a totally unrelated case. they had someone in their groups who said, "by the way, i have a huge scandal you don't know anything about. here's a tip on it." that's how they got started on this road. >> and that's the way many of these happen. >> melissa: and conspiracy, what does that -- this is racketeering, no? >> this is rico. racketeering. ...

Status quo until the september elections start. protestors want him gone before that. some kind of transition has to be underway whether an interim leader and transferring power. it's hard to imagine and hard to imagine why he thinks that this, people on campbell back and horseback looking like rent-a-thugs but it doesn't look like a spontaneous thing. i do think the white house think they have threaded the needle on this. it was a tough balancing act but they managed sending a signal that they are with the protestors but also not saying that we will stab any of our allies in the back. >> bret...