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Snowden aftermath was that in more than ten years of having this extraordinary power, this program had never stopped a single terrorist attack. and so the question is the value versus the effort in trying to make it a very difficult thing work. >> charlie savage, the report is in the "new york times." thank you so much. meantime, the president's grip on his party appears to be slipping. and as a result, also slipping away potentially is the prospect of building a wall along the southern border without congressional approval. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said they have enough republ...

Obviously. and old industrial area that is not what it used to be in many ways. hei he's saying we have to make it here, we have to make this thing work, fall river. >> i appreciate that approach and that attempt but now it gets down to the rubber hitting the road. we as democrats need to make sure we're not just talking at a vocational school with vehicle in the background, but we got do show up. we got to listen to people. we have to go to the factory floor, we have to go to the supermarket. you and i have talked about that. >> if the democrats are going to get washington, pennsylvania, mich...

He's saying we have to make it here, we have to make this thing work, fall river. >> i appreciate that approach and that attempt but now it gets down to the rubber hitting the road. we as democrats need to make sure we're not just talking at a vocational school with vehicle in the background, but we got do show up. we got to listen to people. we have to go to the factory floor, we have to go to the supermarket. you and i have talked about that. >> let's sing that song again. if the democrats are going to get washington, pennsylvania, michigan, ohio, indiana and all those tough states, they bet...

Todd: delve into more of the details on that. your senator mitch mcconnell charged with corralling the republicans to get healthcare pass. rand paul says this proposal is not conservative enough. it is simply obamacare with a few less regulations. >> then rand paul needs to come together with the other republicans, maybe pull some people over from the other side and let's come together and get something passed that works for the people. things are going in the right direction. coal mining is coming back in kentucky. the economy is doing great, finally. i mean the stock market is off the charts...

Thing work, tariffs may not be necessary. not unusual. everyone in canada has a variation how they won the race from their campaign to the reality of, looking -- i think the difference between the people that we talked about just a moment ago and donald trump is i sum it up in demeanor and deportment. that is the difference between them about how he'll conduct himself as president. now he does reflect a very large part of a popular culture. >> i was going to say, popular culture is radically different than in 1960 or 1980. >> no question about that, joe. i was thinking as we open up this morni...