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Without saying it. so it's kind of interesting. but i think that it would indicate that trump is feeling good about what he's been told thus far. >> neil: do you think the president already knows, john? >> neil, i'm going to give you a startling answer. nobody knows. but the only way that this can be a story is if the white house is already had a chance to review it. otherwise, nothing is going to happen publicly. i just came back from washington. i'm not seen since media frenzy since o.j. there's other things besides executive privilege. national security matters. they will be withheld. grand...

Conway, the president really rips her husband a new one. she comes out and talks about the president and not her husband. i thought that was weird. >> i find that one mind baffling. i can't imagine what would happen in my marriage if i entered the conversation by talking about protecting the president rather than my husband and letting this go on. i can't imagine the conflict that she feels and her husband feels -- >> this wouldn't be the first president that party members are afraid to take on. this one will go further though. i guess they challenge him, tweet bad things about him. it's not w...

Stooping below who they were. >> neil: that might be a conundrum for the democratic army wanting to take him down. i tend to follow the money folks and where they're heading or where they're going. >> sure. >> beto o'rourke gets a lot of buzz because of the number of dollars. now reports that i guess it's mark gallagley, a former topobama fund raiser raised hundreds of thousands is going to do the same for o'rourke. what do you make? >> i think beto o'rourke is a fascinating character. on its face, i don't understand what the appeal is. i'm not sure what his experience is, i'm not sure what he...

People defend him. when people go crazy, how can he do this, everybody digs in their heels and gets more protective. he gets away with it and he needs to move on. this is one of those things the president accepts the president because of his pollties and forgives the personality quirk. this is like a deficit but he gets away with it. >> neil: yeah, but i think what we're trying to say her, whether you give him credit for the markets, we would being -- be blaming the president if it were the opposite. >> yeah, a lot of people don't hear what he's done well because they're so distracted by the s...

Executive order include student loan reform. not only a scorecard on am i getting a good value for my education, what type of debt have i financed my education with. people don't realize that all students are not created equal. there's subsidized debt -- >> neil: debt for the engineering students versus philosophy. >> exactly. what this is doing is looking at a score guard. being like hey, this school gets a b. maybe you should consider an a school. while this is ladder to enforce, like free speech, i agree with you 100%. i think it's thought leadership and a step in the right direction. we ha...