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Politically and militarily. but u.s. officials also did note today that what was notable about what zelenskyy said is also what he didn't say today. he didn't make that call for a no-fly zone. some of those things he couldn't get and didn't ask again to be part of the nato alliance. >> it was notable when our reporter in brussels reports that president biden talking to nato countries referenced president trump saying, you guys need to bump up your defense spending but i'm not going to say it in a mean way like trump did. is president biden going to have a little more success corralling these n...

Targeting iranian's, that's worse than war. >> your reaction? >> i think both sides need to tone down the rhetoric a little bit. we've been dealing with the iranian's for decades in the persian gulf and the strait of hormuz. i've been to the strait of hormuz half a dozen times, the navy knows how to deal with the iranian's was we know how to prevent a war and ensure things don't escalate but a miscalculation on the part of either side could be problematic. if you go back to the late 80s, the us warship that shot down an iranian airbus, 290 people killed, these are the things i worry about more...