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Obstruct the mueller investigation. i don't think that's going away in six weeks. congressman, mueller has made it very clear he is a reluctant witness. he doesn't want to do this and also made it very clear he is going to stick so what was written by him andma his team, n the 448-page report. what are the chances these big hearings turn out to be a dud? >> i think highly likely. there's a 50/50 shot as to whether we actually have the hearing. you have the attorney general say outloud he would support mueller. i think mueller is concerned aboute his long term presence ad tenure and he doesn't ...

Enumeration of the population. that's everyone, but i think -- >> chris: but is it unreasonable? we ask a lot of questions in the census about race, about income, about gender. what's wrong with asking citizenship? >> nothing. what we're talking about i think there has been historically there has been in the past. >> chris: there's one that goes up to 3 million people. >> thank you, that's what i'm talking about3 but on the short form it's not and this is an effort by this president and this administration is part of stirring anti-immigrant to say that the immigrant population don't participat...