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He might not have known that the president dictated. >> absolutely true but that's not what he said. he could have said to chris, i don't know. i didn't ask the president that. what he said is, the president had nothing to do with that statement. it was done by don junior's and his lawyer. the so you're right, it is possible he didn't know but that's not what he said. and he has been around the block long enough, talk to jay and donald trump frankly did you jay, to know that your words matter this these situations and i'm sure he chose his words carefully based on what he did know. >> bad or w...

And sell us? >> no. i don't think jay would put his entire professional reputation on the line for that. i could be wrong, but my guess is he didn't know that. now, the question is did he not know because he asked president trump, or someone close to president trump, did the president have any input on thisnd at president said no or whoever he asked said no. or did he not ask. those are the questions we don't know the answer to. the what we do know the answer to is i think we should play that tape at the top of every hour, today, because that is not -- what the attorney said there is not true....

Is going to be on with jake tapper on "state of the union" this morning. he said that this is the week we are going to learn if there are tapes. why drag this out, josh? >> basically, this is what donald trump does any time he doesn't want to tell us something. he says next week or in two weeks. it's convenient because it's long enough you don't ask every day but it's short enough you still stay excited. his way of stringing everybody along without actually making a decision. so i don't think jay was speaking for hims. he was referring to the president's statements which we know is a perilous ...

45%. nbc averaging 74.4 million viewers at 10:00 eastern time. i do love it jimmy kimmel and david letterman are joking about this as well. they had a great little chat about it last night. listen. >> i don't think jay was happy because he went on the oprah show and said i sucker punched him. he's always running to tattle to oprah whenever something happens. i didn't feel like i did sucker punch, but then i looked it up in the dictionary and i was. >> i love it, running to oprah. in sitcom, late night land news, betty white, america's grandma, we all love her, will be hosting saturday night lo...

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