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Really understand -- a lot of conservatives said i've never seen anything like this before in my life. you have others that find this all very curious. i understand being frustrated with broward county. i was on the ground, as you know, in the 2000 recounts. i don't understand the conspiracy theories and why in the world would rick scott continue to be spreading this nonsense when chances are really good he's going to win. i don't think nelson is going to pick up 12,000 votes. so back off that nelson is trying to steal the election bit. >> your guess is as good as mine. put aside the fact peop...

Question that. talking about cause and effect, these are different cities with different population comp sayings, different cultural traditions. there are confounding variables -- >> so more guns is always the answer? >> the idea that citizenship entails rights, it also entails obligations. those obligations of citizenship are going to vary from city to city depending on the shared cultural traditions and political ideas in that community. i don't necessarily think nelson's idea makes sense where i live in new york city. i do think nelson should be allowed to pursue this idea and say, look, ma...

And it's so frustrating because we want to be able to work with the police, law-abiding citizens and the police to work together to make a safer city. nelson, the police chief is a firearm instructor and he wants to work with the citizens of his city to make responsible gun owners. we can't have a cop on every corner but we can have a responsible gun owner in every house. so i support the effort, but i don't think this bill's quite what we need. >> all right. i mean, of course, some people may say, nancy lanza was a responsible gun owner maybe, look what happened when someone else got ahold of...