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Rivals. >> that's why i get concerned when some of the other candidates are making promises that i don't think that they can keep. >> you're saying that elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are not being straight with people by how they would pay for all these programs? >> yes. >> have you made that case to some of those progressive voters who say now is the time to think big? >> yeah, but i'm thinking big, too. >> essentially senator warren said you're not thinking big enough, not thinking bold enough. >> i guess big enough only means that everything's free? is that what it means? >> reporter:...

Authenticity. these are issues and values i've had for many, many years, s pas thinking big. that's her mantra. why not think big if you'll run rre big on numerous issues in the past, especially after the financial crisis with the consumer financial protection bureau. people told me i couldn't do it. i did it. you heard from klobuchar. just because you're the one who thinks big doesn't mean that others don't have big ideas that are of value. >> that comes through so strongly and so clearly when she's up there. they're trying to raise a credibility issue. but her response is compelling and it's...

Right here, which is a resort it happens i have a restaurant, and they've been super helpful. we began planning. what happens if this is a massive hurricane 5 and destroys these two beautiful islands of grand abaco and grand bahama? and we began thinking big. we knew we needs helicopters. we will need the boat, and we began planning for that. unfortunately the big one happened. as soon as we could, we had more than 24, 25 world center kitchen members in place already, and, you know, we are doing what we do, which is feeding and providing water as soon as we can to everybody that we can reach t...

Gun -- gun safety groups such as yourself have been fighting so hard for these small, incremental changes for so long. it's so hard to break the dam of nra resistance. there are folks inside your movement who are saying let's think big? like cory booker, for instance, proposing essentially a licensing system, like car license for all guns. which is utterly anathema to the nra. what do you think about that idea and the scope of the ambitions of your movement are right now. >> we should absolutely be talking and thinking big. we should be talking about comprehensive reform because that's what it...

That guy was a doctor. this was what made america. the road started here. the automobile. frozen peas started here. credit on a mass scale started here. >> anthony: what was this like just before this or 20 years before. >> charlie: it was insane. and this is when it was like twice as many people here. this is the consequence because all the whites went. they took their money. they took their factories. the black middle class maintained for a while, and then it got too rough for them. so there's little pockets of feral hippies and older black folks, a couple white folks, some arabs, but this i...