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Controversial, as is the author of the book, that i just met. the book is called "born to run" and the author is christopher mcdougall. did you always love to run? >> no, i hated running. i was always getting hurt. i'm a big guy. doctors always told me a guy like you shouldn't be running. the impact is bad for the body, bad for you. >> that's what the doctors said, instead of giving you strategies they just said don't run? >> exactly. give me cortisone shocks. they would recommend orthotics. essentially it was the, you're forestalling the inevitable, at some point, you're going to get hurt. >>...

Ago, the president might've said good. but i think we've seen a couple things happen that are different. there's been personnel changes in the white house. you see the president thinking wait a second. they are trying to pass my agenda. passing a lot of bills in the house and getting some stuff done in the senate where they can but also being supportive, especially on judges in particular. and then you have the paul ryan's office saying no, this is not happening, not happening. i will say that's what speaker boehner's office said right up until the day that he made kind of a sudden decision. o...