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Tree cutting detail on the border. it could have been much worse. i think this was relatively restrained. north korea does shoot at defectors. they got him out alive. that's a good thing. with the tensions in the united states and north korea today, it's what kim jong-un is thinking right now about doing that's more provocative like having another atomic bomb test. these are the things that really -- >> well, it has been two months since they tested the missile. so holidays are often a time when we see those kinds of provocations. are you concerned about this holiday season? >> i'm not concern...

Him from being the next saddam hussein or the next qaddafi. we need to make him understand that if he achieves that capability he will not survive. he will fail. we have to importantly change the chinese calculus. the thing that they most fear is a unified korean peninsula that is friendly to the united states and the west on their borders or a failed north korean state and they have to deal with a 25 million refugee problem and we have to make the chinese understand that war on the peninsula is a very real possibility, that we will not accept a nuclearized east asia and that that would be a w...

>> the thing that's a problem right now is i think that kim jong-un has a low threshold of risk. the execution of five of his subordinates. as well on the february 12th launch of the intermediate range missile. it was not there, that's an indication at problems at the top. now you have issues where malaysia. i don't know what kim jong-un is thinking right now, but he doesn't view the world the same which we do. >> you have no good signs. can you point to one good sign that -- >> yes, i can. one of the things i'm most impressed with is that the u.s. military has given up on trying

It's gone from being a show you could sit back and get a good laugh out of to being, frankly, bad television. >> a lot of folks worry about trump and his aides not respecting dissent, not being able to handle criticism. the silver lining of his tweets, he's about to hit 20 million followers on twitter, is that we always know what the president-elect is thinking. >> that's true. in that "saturday night live" skit, my senior producer who is a brilliant producer, did you notice on alec baldwin's lapel, instead of the american flag it had the russian flag? >> i did not notice that. i had not seen ...

Portfolio. >> there are. i hope he takes the opportunity to bring in some, if not dissenting views, at least views that will be independent of what he's expressed on the campaign trail. people respected in the various agencies. there is a great talent pool out there of people that have served in republican administrations, conservative people, but mainstream people, and it scares plea when i see him pick people outside the mainstream. >> ho woo you prefer? rudy jewgiuliani or mitt romney? >> i would be thrilled to see mitt romney. well with the mainstream. not extensive experience, but neither...