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Your vantage point you are wanting to focus on ambassador sonlands instead of focusing on ambassador volker who was the ukrainian envoy who actually talked to the ukrainians, who actually had the responsibility. >> and in a tweet a short time later meadows argued the volker-sondland laid it out, president trump wanted to clear up ukraine. blatant partisanship. there he switches from it didn't happen to it did happen but there is nothing wrong with it as they say the seinfeld defense. mitch mcconnell wouldn't comment but he did speculate if a senate impeachment trial were held today. >> i will ...

Listen, i'm not telling you to hurt anybody, i'm just sayin' -- that's what we have here. it's so transparent that it's laughable. >> what do we make of this volker's testimony about rudy guiliani having to tell them, everybody this, do what rudy tells you to do. >> we learned from these transcripts that pompeo was essentially rolling his eyes at guiliani saying this is a problem we've got to deal with and the impression from folks around him was pompeo and the state department wanted guiliani out of this but had to hit a brick wall in trying to get guiliani removed from the ukraine policy -- ...