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Against russia. >> now tim kearny we're getting reporting from andrea mitchell this afternoon citing a senior source in the administration that mike pence was told by flynn basically that the conversation hadn't happened. that's the basis for pence coming out and making that statement. it sounds like there is an intense sort of battle going on directly beneath donald trump and this administration right now. >> if the story as i it might have been is true and flynn basically lied to pence, then flynn needs to go, but we see what we've got is washington post story with nine anonymous sources, an...

Council, that's not what the executive order says. so if you were really concerned about that, you could tighten up that executive order to make it clear it doesn't apply to green card holders and people already here, but here unlawfulfully. >> john malcolm, thanks for taking a few minutes. >> good to be with you. okay. quick break here on the other side though, feeling the heat. congressman jason chaffetz faces protests at a raucous town hall meeting back in his home state of utah. you're going to have to see these clips to believe it. more on that ahead. also michael flynn, we just told ...

States. we've got to make sure that we do what's right for the iraqi people and that's a challenge. that's not something that the united states can do for them. >> the president announced he would be sending secretary of state john kerry to the region this weekend. joining me now from washington is washington post columnist and senior fellow of governance studies at the brookings institute e.j. deion and michael scherer, this week's cover piece focuses on the underlying factors influencing the current upheaval in iraq and it is an awesome, awesome piece. michael, let me start with you. the pre...