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Great people to do negotiations, how stupid everybody is, how parasites the media are, all that sort of stuff, and people enjoy it but at what point do people want to hear, well, wait a minute, what do you actually mean take the oil from iraq? >> i think that happens. i think that happens over time. i think there are stages of a campaign and as i've said before, this is the swimsuit competition. the talent rounds are coming. and people begin to look at these people as perspective presidents of the united states. and those are more exacting tests. so i think it will come. i don't think, trust m...

Available at these fine retailers. we are back with all eyes on the second gop presidential debate tonight. four brave souls at the bottom of the polls go head-to-head in the happy hour debate. they are vying for relevance among a misor thistorically big. carly fiorina made the leap to the big stage. but is it too little, too late for the other candidates? does someone go about winning a debate if they go into it with a loser mentality ahead of time? >> well, you don't want to think of yourself as a loser when it