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Him because i had been president of the young democrats of america, the first actually from virginia for the organization. so you know, both him and then governor terry mcauliffe, because ralph northam was lieutenant governor at that time, had called to congratulate me and send me e-mails. so i had some sort of existing relationship with him, as many did. and so, it was just shock initially, you know. how can this person that we know, who's traveled around to black churches, who has attended a black church himself, who has elevated so many young, black leaders in politics in the state, mentore...