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Largely due to pressure internally within cuba from cuba's only civil society. so to the extent that the united states can take unilateral steps to embolden civil society, to give them greater strength to push for reforms, i think it will ultimately benefit not just u.s. interests, but also the cause for freedom in cuba. >> just going back to the video we saw over the weekend, was this really just a glimpse of fidel in his twilight? is that essentially what we saw, you think, this weekend? >> i think, i think what we saw was an effort of fidel to rescue whatever he thinks remains of his legacy...

That fidel suggests may or may not happen in the future. >> and thomas, you saw in reesz weeks, raoul castro has made the decision to free some political prisoners there. many of those prisoners have made their way to europe and are leaving cuba. and raoul castro has announced some recent economic moves, where he may be laying off scores and scores of government workers in that country. what looks like a privatization of the cuban workforce. does that perhaps show a path towards normalization for these two countries? >> well i think that raoul is doing at least, is taking steps to do what they...