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Popularity. i think that desantis has a lot of really dangerous qualities. i think that the way that he is sucked up to trump has been abominable. but if you look at what he did on covid, it wasn't anything special, he was in the median republican governor. they all did the same thing, you know. they'll made mistakes, they all tried to get masks into a culture war. he wasn't any different than the governor of oklahoma in that regard. and he's used the media very skillfully to make it seems like he was some big fight that wasn't really different than anything else in the. party >> that's on the...

True. >> it's true. >> another story, though isn't it. this morning a chicago family is behind bars accused of running a decade-long shoplifting ring. they're charged with stealing $7 million worth of merchandise. they said they hid them in a specially made dress. >> who would have thought this husband, wife, and daughter trio could have allegedly gotten away with stealing so much merchandise over such a long time. they apparently lived a pretty good life in this chicago suburb. that's where police arrested them. t they're alleged family business now busted after at least a decade of shoplif...