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But here we sit and we have the little question mark over -- little thought bubble as a question mark, i don't know what he would do. and that's the sad spot about all of this. and you have communities of color, you have communities across this country that are concerned about whether or not this president is interested in protecting their interests. >> i just can't let this go, because you're blowing my mind. you think if dylan roof committed that crime now, is that what you're saying? >> yeah, yeah. no amazing grace? >> prove it to me otherwise. prove it to me otherwise. because i can only g...

Little thought bubble as a question mark, i don't know what he would do. and that's the sad spot about all of this. and you have communities of color, you have communities across this country that are concerned about whether or not this president is interested in protecting their interests. >> i just can't let this go, because you're blowing my mind. you think if dylan roof committed that crime now, is that what you're saying? >> yeah, yeah. no amazing grace? >> prove it to me otherwise. prove it to me otherwise. because i can only go on what you say, what you do and what you don't do, right? ...

>> so no words -- i'm sure you had words in your thought bubble you would like to say to him. but no words were exchanged. >> no words were i can changed. at no point have i spoken with el chapo. >> was he emotional at any point? >> yes, once he arrived into new york, into long island, you can tell his emotions got the best of him. he was outside of mexico on u.s. soil. he no longer had control is what happened. in mexico he felt strong and powerful. and here he is in new york and that was it. >> that's when he knew. >> that's when he -- that's the realization set in and he realized that this ...

It's so disgusting. but then when you walk it back, he is done in the state of virginia. we do have one term governor's in the commonwealth of virginia, so i don't know if that plays into his calculus of whether or not he sticks around. but he needs to go for the sake of the common will as well as democratic party. >> harris: i want to get to this. "new york times," the governor's refusal to resign plunge virginia into political turmoil and created a crisis for national democrats who have a sealed trump for his demagogy on racial issues and have made claim that they cannot abide a prominent pa...

Giuliani is pointing the finger away from his client and towards everybody else. >> you never said there was no collusion between the campaign -- >> yes, you have. >> i said the president of the united states. there is not a single bit of evidence the president of the united states committed the only crime you can commit here, conspired with the russians to hack the dnc. >> let's go again on chris's reaction. >> i never said there was no collusion between the campaign -- >> record scratch. let me bring in -- record scratch. let me bring in michael smerconish. watching that interview, you can s...