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For themselves at first liberty.org christians engaged was, as you said, quote, bible teachings are typically affiliated with the republican party. that's evidently the irs's position. that is contrary to both the irs's own regulations as well as constitutional protections for free speech and free religious exercise and there are plenty of other civic organizations across the country who do the same thing that christians engaged does and illegal and unlawful to discriminate because of their viewpoint. >> will: i appreciate you bringing us in. let's talk about why this is happening. let's talk ...

You? >> it sounds almost exactly the same. there were some 400 organizations, will, that applied for this 501(c)3 status. they were denied that it was president obama who notoriously said there wasn't even a smidgen of corruption at the irs. yet, the american taxpayers had to pay nearly these 400 organizations pay them because they were wrongfully designated as such and denied their first amendment right to go out and do this. so, this case, where they cite that the vice chairman, for instance, is home cooler, she does home schooling. that one of the people involved in the organization was a f...

Republican as being seen simply as christian. what are your beliefs? >> well, we simply are a christian ministry, nonpartisan, nonprofit, engaging christians around america that it's time to pray for our elected officials. it's time to pray for our city, state, nation. it's time for us to be vote and be physically engaged. it's time for us to follow god into whether we want to impact our communities whether that's helping foster care kids. whether that's working with human trafficking victims or helping with the pre-born. there is so many issues in our nation and christians engaged is there to...

Won't hit a shot or take a shot. i look forward to that day. until that time you and i can keep debating some of these very serious issues facing our country. deal? >> sounds good. >> will: thanks for jumping on with me. why are democrats so interested in beefing up the irs? well, you know why. and their first victim a christian who was targeted because of her beliefs sounded in their words, get this, too republican. they join me next. ♪ ♪

Planned parenthood. let's get to the question why then jason we have talked as we should maybe not enough. we have talked about the institutions of bureaucracy the federal government like the doj or the fbi who seemingly have taken political positions and focused their bureaucracy, their organization's energy towards political means and political ends. is the irs another political wing of the democratic party? >> i'm afraid it is. because there is no cops sequence, will. we have seen it at the department of justice. we have seen it at the -- at the irs time and time again and to much to my exa...