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My thought pattern was that this guy needs to vent. this is going to make him feel better, then by all means get it out. >> it's unclear if this is making him feel any better, but vent he does. >> you're [ bleep ] crazy. ah! i can't -- you're [ bleep ] crazy. >> unlike the driver, trooper murray keeps a noticeably cool demeanor. >> you don't pick this up, sir, i'm going to summons you for littering. >> are you [ bleep ] crazy? i wasn't even speeding, you damn, [ bleep ]. $100 and some dollars? jesus. >> at that time, littering was $100. i would have wrote his name on the summons if he refused ...

Reintegrating with your community, finding a job, substance abuse. it's a very complex issue that i think some experts are finally starting to get a handle on maybe what's triggering this spike. >> and what do they believe is the key component? and i feel terrible trying to minimize this to one thing because as you pointed out, it's a laundry list of things these men and women face. >> yeah, what's really interesting is a new study came out this week that essentially sort of deflated the notion that combat and multiple deployments are really the key triggers. that folks come home, men and wome...

Thought pattern of kill or be killed. >> and steve, last question. did you see in your work on the ground anything that surprised you? you went into this with a goal and a narrative in mind, but did you learn anything that you didn't expect to learn? >> we learned lots of things we didn't expect. i mean, i think we expected, number one, to be a really tough movie to make because of the subject matter, and it was in a way, absolutely. but, you know, the thing that really stuck with us was not only the heroism and the incredible insight that ameena and other interrupters we followed bring to the...

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