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This information, between that and his announcement of raids in these states and cities, is this a play to his base? you have the mueller testimony next week, you have energy in the democratic field. he's had recent set backs. is this a play to his base? >> i think the president has been conscious to where his base is on any issue related to immigration. so it's his way of threading that needle. it's very hard to go up against the supreme court, your supreme court really. this is a court that has many nominees that president trump put there. justices. president trump nominated to that bench. s...

Someone that you have to watch. one is $100 million that he is going to spend. first one to come up with a tv ad. number two, he has spent in the last few years getting donor lists and getting activist lists which is the key to grassroots. three things he has done. the impeach trump, the climate change and the voter registration. i think he has tens of millions of people's names that are activists. now, that being said, those are two good things but i actually think threading the needle of being the populist who is a billionaire is a tough one. steve: we had expert on a couple of days ago that...

That is, he's going to -- i mean, he's going to make this the most boring hearing you can imagine. i doubt that any new news is going to come out of it. the need is not going to be shifted. but you know, ari, as you were asking me that question i was remembering back. i am old enough to remember in 1974, when the house was trying to consider whether to impeach or begin impeachment proceedings against nixon and there was a lot of division, finally the leadership in the house, the democratic leadership decided to authorize the judiciary committee to commence what they called then an impeachment ...

Candidates, including a historic number of women. >> on both stages. which is a really cool thing for the democrats in this country. >> we're going to see a huge range of ages, right? >> yes. >> we're going to see hispanic, black, women in numbers we've never seen before on the debate stage. does it change the dynamic? >> democrats hope there's an implicit message on the diversity on that stage. for the women candidates, you know -- >> first openly gay candidate. >> first openly gay candidate. women have to prover that capable. and men are presumeder that competent. voters will vote for a male...

Interesting way. and as kirsten gillibrand put it, who led the effort and is perhaps paying a bit of a price for that right now, but the other democrats who are also running, who were in the field, including elizabeth warren, kamala harris, all called for al franken to resign. so pete buttigieg was separating himself from them, but threading the needle a little bit because the issue of me too and women's treatment in the workplace by powerful superiors is a raw issue for many voters, particularly many progressive voters. so he was sort of making a point that he is going to step away, different...