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Reaction. he knows it. this is a man of a certain age from a certain time. he's 70 plus years old from the 1950s. so when he says go back where you came from, he knows exactly what that triggers. he knows exactly what it means when he says it, and he knows how people are going to react to it. >> when they're sitting around the white house wherever they meet to talk about this thing, do they think they see goldenness or have to do some damage control? what's going on here with the trump trumpees? >> well, it looks like when you watch trump, he does something. he lashes out. and then they tell e...

Quite a bit of attention to detail. some might view it as devious. >> no, totally. it ties to the point i was trying to make before. he attacks the ned chairman when he says, gees, you shouldn't do that, it's irresponsible. you appointed that chairman. the effect is to have powell be willing to reduce interest rates or not raise rates, probably reduce rates if the market seems to wobble a little bit. he knows what he's doing. that's what nixon did in '71 and '72. i think in a lot of issues, yes, there is more guile than we think. it does president mean he's playing three dimensional chess, doe...

Nancy pelosi and donald trump, we can both disagree with them. i disagree with both on a lot of things but politically they're playing three dimensional chess. that's why she hasn't moved to impeach this president and probably won't. >> donald trump couldn't play two dimensional chess. >> no i haven't. >> one at a time. >> he is grossly incompetency. he has six bankruptcies. he never thought one step ahead in his life. total loser through and through and if you're saying she's not much of a strategist either i would agree but you think she is great and by the way, republicans think you're grea...

Sounds like trying to use a fight on the democrats. >> i don't think he ever sees more than three days down the road. >> he's not playing three dimensional chess. >> he's playing hopscotch. i think the key thing is when she accused him of a cover up. this gets into his own sense as legitimacy as a president. impeachment would dig into a whole new area. the president didn't get a full

Proof of president trump's involvement? the secret probe has been far reaching charging more than 30 people with crimes. >> it could be a domino effect that leads to the end of the presidency. robert mueller's findings could be the first piece to fall. >> inside look at the man behind the investigation. >> he was a great leader. he was quietly effective and was a fierce opponent. >> you cannot have a more formidable adversary their bob mueller. >> he was playing three dimensional chess while trump is playing bingo. >> we may see charges relating to the president of the united states. >> all we...