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Providing the tools necessary to the kurds and to the sunni tribes and actually empowering them. that's where i think the direction we need to go towards is empowering. >> you alienate the people in the government who is your basis of leverage of figuring out what happens? >> i disagree. i think the direction we need to go toward rather than a central government if baghdad that has proven to be deepening the sectarian divide between the kurds, shias and sunnis we should look at semi autonomous three-state solution that empow irs each of these different groups to be responsible for their own te...

Support this three-state solution of empowering the sunni tribes empowering the kurds and the shiites. each of them having three autonomous territories, rather than continue what we've seen really has failed for so long. by doing this, we can get rid of the oxygen that has allowed isis to maintain its stronghold here within this area of iraq. >> for so many experts in iraq going back over the years including by the way when he was a senator, vice president joe biden basically said there should be three autonomous areas, this whole fiction of unified iraq was controlled by a dictator saddam hus...

>> we need to make sure that we stop continuing this failed policy of supporting and propping up this central government in baghdad and this fantasy, really of a one unified country of iraq and support this three-state solution of empowering the sunni tribes empowering the kurds and the shias, each of them having three autonomous territories rather than continuing what we've seen really has failed for so long. by doing this we can get rid of the oxygen that has allowed isis to maintain its stronghold here within this area of iraq. >> what do you think, congressman? you agree with her? >> well ...

And we'll do what it thinks it can get away with in order to make it happen. that's why it seems so frustrating that we've been doing this for 40, 50 years and haven't gotten anywhere and, indeed, when we talk about a two-state solution, it's really kind of interesting because you've got possibly a three-state solution over there, even though hamas and the politician authority have sort of coalesced for the time being but not exercising the kind of influence they can. any more than the united states can exercise influence over israel. >> such images have changed nations before. i understand th...

And if you switch, you could save up to $423. liberty mutual insurance -- responsibility. what's your policy? the u.s. has called for iraq to adopt a more inclusive government. the future may be more better suited, a lot of experts think, for a permanent division of iraq. brian todd is here in washington. we heard a lot about what they're calling a three-state solution back in 2003 after coalition forces went into iraq, toppled saddam hussein. is that back in discussion? it's being business cussed for the first time in almost a decade. the reality is as bad as it's ever been. isis militants ar...