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Be much better, there will being, obviously, more trade commerce, visitation back and forth to promote democracy and congress has nothing to say about which country is recognized diplomatically. that'se'oz privilege or opportunity or maybe some kind of burden that's given to the president alone. congress has nothing to say about that. the senate has to approve the nominee to be a full ambassador down there. but i think the main thing is to go ahead and lift the embargo and sanctions and that's something that congress has to do since the helms-burton act was passed under president clinton. >> m...

By. and we'll have greater travel. not open travel but greater travel. and so i think this is an evolution and the president has done what he can within the fact that we do have an embargo and that's legislative. >> all right. >> secretary penny pritzker thank you so much. great to have you on the show. >> can i ask her a quick question. understand why for obama, for kerry, for this country it's a great move. it's counter intuitive castro would be doing this at this point. what's in it at him. an 85-year-old guy who led his life a certain way, his legacy, what's the point for him. >> the cuban...

Monopoly of the state. >> if you look at the tourism dollars already spend in cuba, right? if you look at the tourism dollars that are spend in cuba that money doesn't make its way to the people and a lot of the sort of government's narrative is around, it's america doing this to you. i think that will be a great opportunity. it's not america doing this to you. your leadership has to change. the demographic changes are already there. >> you still have the leverage of the embargo that's there. you're not giving up all your constraints. there's incentives for cuba. >> they can't do anything on t...

War. the groundbreaking developments began with yesterday's prisoner swap. cuba released american aide worker alan gross imprisoned for five years along with an unnamed intelligence agent who spent the last 20 years in a cuban president. in return the u.s. released three cuban spies the last of the cuban five detained in 1990. the president's plans are sweeping. they include re-opening the u.s. embassy in havana. reviewing cuba's deis ination as state sponsor of terror and easing travel and expanding economic ties. the president hopes to expand cultural activities and looks forward to engage c...

Talk about cuba. you have been following this for a long time. >> as a reporter, my mother is cuban. left cuba before castro came into power. i think it's going to be better than what exists. you cannot argue that the embargo has been successful and it has not moved the needle. what it's done in a lot of ways part of the government. any problem they say see it's the united states. see here's the problem. so i think there's a potential for actually supporting the cuban people who are very close to american people both geographically and also because cuban-americans, even during the embargo, i w...