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that if you stimulate the economy, making sure that you are partnering with business and giving them -- >> what about your companies that are subject to the companies to pay more? aren't you worried about this them? >> 3% of small businesses that fit into that category. >> that's stale lot. >> 97% who don't and the point is if you can have a -- i'm only interested in what works. if it worked, i would be all about. what will put pooh 'em to work and what the cbo has said is giving access to capital to small businesses that is important through, for example, the small business lending bill that is now cleared the first hurdle in the senate. that's great because i can tell you in michigan, we have the suppliers to the auto industry to invest in order to diversify but the investment is in machining so they can move to a different sort of area of the economy but if they don't have access to capital they can't do that. those kind of measures will help business grow and that's what they need. >> governor, thank you. i do wish we had more time. i think we need to convene a

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