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At this juncture. at the same time it is going to be an interesting race. you know, martin, you make a very good point about the competition n competition. three out of the four opening states in this long marathon are favoring newt now. iowa, the -- south carolina, and florida. and -- only new hampshire which in the past romney has been expected to win. and still giving a narrow lead, his lead has narrowed somewhat. and if he doesn't come out with a big win now in new hampshire, a lot of folks are going to say that that's a virtual victory for gingrich, too. he's in trouble now. got to dig hi...

Pelosi. >> you know, i have personally asked newt about that a few days ago p and he says that's the dumbest thing he ever did. >> johnson, he did it. he did it, though. >> he did and it goes oops, i made a mistake. i don't hold politicians to the perfection standard. people can and do make mistakes. and as long as they learn from those mistakes and move forward, i can accept that. >> how about then the hypocrisy standard of suggesting that barney frank should be sent to jail and at the same time as he does so, he knows full well he personally banked $1.6 million from freddie mac for his histo...

Money to fund tax breaks for wealthiest americans. so on the one hand you have -- newt gingrich who is the tea party before the tea party was cool so to speak and mitt romney who, you know, did spend his career firing people and laying off people, sending jobs overseas to enrich himself and his partners. >> gingrich clearly regards himself as a combination of, i guess, isaac newton and albert einstein. given his debating skills, though, be honest with me, would it not be -- would he not be a more formidable opponent than mitt romney to the president? >> well, look, i think -- i think that you ...

Of the other candidates, i invariably get an e-mail from a ron paul supporter complain being the fact i'm not writing about ron paul and all the support he has. if ron paul takes iowa, that could -- that could spell trouble for gingrich because he will have been king of the hill for so long. but also for mitt romney, who desperately needs to win in new hampshire, if he is going to go -- if he will go any further in the contest, so ron paul coming in first or second could upend the race as we know it. >> how significant is iowa in the election cycle? mike huckabee took iowa the last time around...

That can be nasty with the president and can go toe to toe with him on a debate stage and not be embarrassed. i think they found their guy in newt gingrich. >> do you think that this is about a confrontational character as opposed to a considerate one? >> sure. look at all the people that were number one above mitt romney. newt gingrich, michele bachmann, donald trump even though he didn't get into the race. these were all people who took it right to the president with very bold, blunt red meat language that thrills the base. >> think about whether rick perry was riding high in polls, saying t...