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Period of time in which you are essentially face-to-face with your victim and for many offenders, this is a very powerful time. it's a time when essentially they're controlling the life of the victim. they're playing god. do you recall feeling anything? did you like the control? did you like the power that you had over her? >> i wasn't aware of it at the time. >> okay. are you aware of it now? >> i think because it was mentioned and you're not the first one to mention it. >> when you ask a psychopath, how did you feel about it? they sort of rock back because they don't really know how they fel...

A very powerful time. it's a time when essentially they're controlling the life of the victim. they're playing god. >> do you recall feeling anything? did you like the control? did you like the power that you had over her? i wasn't aware of it at the time. >> okay. are you aware of it now? >> i think of it because it's been mentioned. you're not the first one to mention it. >> when you ask a psychopath, well, how did you feel about that they -- they sort of rock back because they don't really know how they felt about it because they didn't feel anything. >> rifkin dismembers julie blackbird an...

Before killing again. >> maybe joel hadn't reached the compulsion to kill again hadn't reached a zenith to act out again. sometimes it's years or weeks. but for him it was 18 months. >> in late 1990 joel picks up julie blackbird under the manhattan bridge. his mother is again out of town, so they drive back to east meadow and julie spends the night. >> yeah, she slept some of that time, took a shower some of that time, watched tv. >> kind of like a relationship. >> well, just hanging out, killing time. >> yeah, like friends. >> yeah. >> if you didn't know who you were listening to and what the...

After strangling a young prostitute to death, budding serial killer joel rifkin spends months reliving the grisly event before killing again. >> maybe joel hadn't reached the compulsion to kill again hadn't reached a zenith to act out again. sometimes it's years or weeks. but for him it was 18 months. >> in late 1990 joel picks up julie blackbird under the manhattan bridge. his mother is again out of town, so they drive back to east meadow and julie spends the night. >> yeah, she slept some of that time, took a shower some of that time, watched tv. >> kind of like a relationship. >> hanging ou...

Were listening to and what the outcome was, you would believe that they were a couple, you know, on a date. >> before driving her back to the city, joel agrees to go to an atm machine with withdraw extra money for julie. >> we were leaving and i hit her from behind once and then strangled her. >> why did you hit her? >> probably to stop her. >> but why, why did -- >> motivating? >> yeah, why? >> i'm not asking, you know, why did you hit -- i know you hit her so that you could incapacity her. that's clear. i'm asking you the why. what was the reason that you hit her? he just -- that just comple...