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Children. it's not bipartisan. this is just the trump administration. >> shannon: that's how executive orders work. >> it's throwing money at the issue. it's not the solution. the war on poverty cost trillion dollars. so what we need to work on is deregulation and creating jobs and having a strong economy which is what the trump administration is doing. we are seeing less people on welfare programs. >> shannon: we can see neighbors who need ourselves and start with ourselves. thank you both. what started as a beautiful walk took a dangerous turn. a phoenix mother fell and had her 3 yard daught...

>> it's a public health issue. it's more about politics. it's about the health of the population. if you look at -- nbc, the bay area station in nbc, did a report during sweeps. you know it's serious during sweeps. they want to see what's going on. they found 300 piles of feces and drug needles in the ender loin neighborhood. if you have local numbers counting poop to bring a message saying this is out of control, you have to wonder in a city where they have high taxes and very wealthy people and it's among the filthiest to the point where local news is going out and investigating. >> this is ...

Racial imbalances and evils that had existed and manifest in america, we spent tens of trillions of dollars in the war on poverty and has been no actual, real receipt from that as far as the number of black people who have been raised from poverty. at that time, 20% of all black children were born into single mother families, now it's upward of 70%. the black poverty rate is the same as it was back in 1970, that doesn't suggest throwing money at the problem as a cure for whatever historic ailments have been visited on the black community. we live in a time where legalized discrimination is not...

What i'm talking about is let's give everybody who makes under $100,000 credit for reparations. i'm saying that some form of reparations, what i'm hearing is that there would be some form of money, probably a tax credit or something like that to say we did that. >> i think it's reparations for slavery. >> martha: what form does it take? >> better education? tax credits? >> the actual argument, these things have been introduced in the congress going back to the 80s and have never gone anywhere. it's not something that's real. >> martha: he talked about the fact he feels slavery was a grave wron...

>> martha: you're saying it would let people off the hook. and you think people would -- what? what would they resort to? >> i'm saying in terms of our obligations as americans and as an american government it would be done. it's as if you rented to someone won the lottery and 2 minutes later they are broke. >> martha: is this a good way to make society better, to pay people more money. to give an entitlement to right a wrong. what does that solve and how does that work? >> you loaded that question and such of an extreme way. when you said entitled. there would be so many arguments, is martha ...