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Other issue, i love charlie to death here, but i think their cause is probably a bit more amorphous here and that's the problem. and the argument that they feel disenfranchised and are lashing out and the group they feel is very much enfranchised and very much in the power and the money what is their-- >> well, trying to state the obvious, which is that it's more of the people had jobs they wouldn't have time to be protesting on wall street or in front of the homes of the ceo's of investment firms. >> i disagree with that. >> and as far as, i think they're revolutionaries, a lot of the people....