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And msnbc terrorism analyst, thank you so much for joining us. >> good to be here. >> tell us what your reaction was when you first heard there were two passengers on board with stolen passports. >> this went from an event which was all right suspicious to very suspicious. as tom and others have said, we don't know what it was, but certainly if you're in the counterterrorism business, you have to take small bits and try to understand the full picture. having two people with stolen passports who buy those tickets together, that's extremely suspicious and makes you look at this crash in a whole ...

Have to check the passports when they check someone in and my guess is malaysian airlines was not doing this on a regular basis. >> could this happen in the united states? >> i don't think it could happen in the united states. over the past 13 years the u.s. has invested huge amounts in a consolidated watch list system and screening for lost and stolen passports in something called security flight allows anyone flying in the united states or to the united states that that information is immediately compared in real time by the airlines and by the department of homeland security. it's not perfe...

Suggests this plane really deviated significantly and nobody knows where it is. i would hasten to add, the radar coverage is not very good. it's difficult to say would another radar have picked up this plane elsewhere? so far they have no images. >> all right, tom costello, thank you for that report. >> we're 13 years after 9/11. how exactly did two people manage to board a flight with stole an passport. a lot of people are complaining about this. interpol maintains a an international data base but four in 10 passports are never screened against that database because many countries and airline...

The past several years to get this advanced technology and screening in key areas, whether it's east africa or the caribbean, places where there's a lot of transit to the u.s. >> we're training and giving technology. >> we're helping people build the technology and build the wires between interpol and governments and airlines but can't do that all over the world. this is a global issue, tht interpol. the international civil aviation administration. the u.s. can do a lot and focus some resources but we can't cover the globe. >> thank you, michael lighter of the national counter terrorism center...