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>> tucker: the naacp is declaring war on trump administration. it gives work permits to illegal immigrants who arrive here as children. kevin jackson is executive director of the black sphere. he said trump should respond by suing the naacp right back. kevin jackson joins us tonight. n kevin, it's great to see you.ac this story confused me. i'm open-minded but it does seem like there is a lot of social science that shows that really high levels of low skilled immigration hurt a lot of different groups but they really hurt african-americans in employment and wages.t i don't think that's up for ...

>> that's what we call a sack lunch. t >> i don't think that's going to solve anything. that's only going to make our problems worse. >> i think she went a little too far in that. >> jesse: do you think madonna reflects poorly on women when she says something like this at the women's march. >> yes, she makes us look crazy. >> are you a republican,es democrat, or independent? >> independent. >> i'm the president of the i brown's republican club. >> how do you feel about rhetoric like that? >> i mean, i can understand it. >> jesse: have you thought about blowing up the white house? >> no. >> jes...

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Think it's the government -- this isn't about the's - government. >> so i will take thatat as a no that you don't think there obama administration is promoting self-reliance depend dependent on parents not the government. >>l wider point take it as a no. you don't think the obama a administration is promoting self-reliance. >> i don't think they're tnot. i don't think they are or are not. t i don't think that's the role of the government to promote self-reliance. >> if i were president i would bebe saying -- >> you would be cutting benefits and starving them to death? wou >> yeah.scar i would ...