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Immigration shutdown is a thing that is just not going to happen. >> nbc's garrett haake, thank you very much. now to the white house and nbc's period of time alexander who is standing by to us. period of ti peter, i was just talking to garrett about what the president said yesterday about wanting a shutdown. was the president not in the loop or in the loop when it came to what exactly the democrats and republicans were negotiating on congress? >> reporter: it's a good question, the tone certainly didn't match the tone that we were hearing from the top republican and democrat senators yesterda...

Immigration? it's now going to be up to lawmakers to deal with this independently. one of the president's on-again/off-again allies, lindsey graham, said he felt present optimistic that they were back on track after the conversations that have been had. so for now we wait and see what the president's next move might be. >> nbc's peter alexander at the white house, peter, good morning, thanks for being here. let's go to today's panel, jeremy peters, lorena maxwell, and rick tyler. jeremy, let's stay on this topic for one more question of where the president stands. is anyone listening to him on...

Surveillance of the u.s. intercepting their communications. so this sort of going dark, if you will, is one of the big concerns that the u.s. may not know as much as it wants to about what this group is up to. and didn't know that 100 of them were out there meeting in the open. >> fascinating, barbara starr, thank you. >> sure. i want to bring in national security analyst, peter bergen, period of ti peter, what do you make of this? >> this guy is the number two in al-qaeda overall. it doesn't appear from this video that there are any civilians in the sequence. they wouldn't take a shot if th...