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Down 11%. private land drilling is up. certain states like north dadakota have found new technologies and they have a 3% unemployment rate, on the state and private lands, not federal, public lands. in addition to that, it takes about 4 to 5 years to find a site, test it, get the equipment there and get that stuff online, which is why i don't think a lot of people think that the keystone pipeline would have given them lower gas prices tomorrow. but president obama was in a position that we has lost. he was in a position to go against the hype and to say, i am going to have a longer-range strat...

Down 11%. private land drilling is up. certain states like north dadakota have found new technologies and they have a 3% unemployment rate, on the state and private lands, not federal, public lands. in addition to that, it takes about 4 to 5 years to find a site, test it, get the equipment there and get that stuff online, which is why i don't think a lot of people think that the keystone pipeline would have given them lower gas prices tomorrow. but president obama was in a position that we has lost. he was in a position to go against the hype and to say, i am going to have a longer-range strat...

Train? >> well, we're actually in unchartered waters. that's the problem. and that's why the volatility and the prediction of high prices is so logical. what's different is -- well, what's the same. we have failed to make decisions on increasing domestic production. not just president obama but presidents before him have not made the difficult choices of expand doing most tick production to be more self-reliant. the unchartered piece is unprecedented in history is asian demand for ever more oil products. china bought 20 million new cars last year. these are new consumers, not repeat consumers....