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Terms of the opinion. >> is it a kas sem? >> look, i work for newt gingrich when he was speaker so having dealt with situations like this. you're in the process of trying to put together a deal and a majority coalition to make that deal work and in the course of that you're going to have arguments. >> karen, conservative groups are slamming them. rarely in modern american politics have more counterproductive, more foolish words been set to paper. does this tie boehner's hands or does it push him to do what he thinks he actually needs to help his position in negotiations? what do you think this...

>> sean: he's strucking his fellow democratic senators you use the word extreme, tie boehner to the tea party. they are not reasonable. they've got to extricate themselves from the tea party movement. i had think this is a strategy we are going to see a lot of. what are your thoughts we you hear that? >> it is clear that chuck schumer and the liberals he's surrounded with are seeing this more as a political move. that's not how we are seeing this the conservatives in congress is real. this is people's lives. if there is anything that i've seen especially in this last week, people feel a sense ...

>> sean: he's strucking his fellow democratic senators you use the word extreme, tie boehner to the tea party. they are not reasonable. they've got to extricate themselves from the tea party movement. i had think this is a strategy we are going to see a lot of. what are your thoughts we you hear that? >> it is clear that chuck schumer and the liberals he's surrounded with are seeing this more as a political move. that's not how we are seeing this the conservatives in congress is real. this is people's lives. if there is anything that i've seen especially in this last week, people feel a sense ...

Shutdown be? democrats seem to want this shutdown. you listen to the tape we played earlier of chuck schumer today, we are going to call them extreme and tie baner to the tea party. would it be -- tie boehner to the tea party. would it be in the republicans' best interest to say not pass continuing resolutions or work against them? >> first we wouldn't be having this discussion if the 111th congress had passed a budget but they didn't even vote on it. i think what is going on is the obama administration sees the threat rising of a possible shutdown here's comes the spin. we are meeting them ha...

I have not come to a decision. i want to hear an the candidates. i think whoever the leader is will emerge naturally >> that's the right attitude. i disagree with michael. i think if president obama is around 50 or below, where he is now he will lose to any acceptable republican. this is obviously an extremely volatile time in politics. it would be foolish to make any grand pronounce s. >> sean: how important will this soming -- so-called shutdown be? democrats seem to want this shutdown. you listen to the tape we played earlier of chuck schumer today, we are going to call them extreme and tie...