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Vice-president. >> he wouldn't be number 2. he's donald trump. >> if you are big enough to take someone that big, you're all right. >> sean: i want his tie collection. you agree rubio? >> i think he needs to be not too cautious. >> sean: how about jeb bush? >> no. >> i like jeb bush -- >> not bush. he would be on his way to the white house. >> he blames his brother. now he can blame jeb. but rubio could reach out to blue collar workers and across party lines, to latinos and blacks as well. >> he is very well spoken and articulate, i think the left-wing eliteville a very hard time atabbing him....

Vice-president. >> he wouldn't be number 2. he's donald trump. >> if you are big enough to take someone that big, you're all right. >> sean: i want his tie collection. you agree rubio? >> i think he needs to be not too cautious. >> sean: how about jeb bush? >> no. >> i like jeb bush -- >> not bush. he would be on his way to the white house. >> he blames his brother. now he can blame jeb. but rubio could reach out to blue collar workers and across party lines, to latinos and blacks as well. >> he is very well spoken and articulate, i think the left-wing eliteville a very hard time atabbing him....

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Outside of both parties. >> there are lots of pale pastels in his tie collection. >> kelly is plugging his ties. we'll leave you out of this donald trump conversation. we'll talk to him in a second. let's talk about the business at hand for the country. a late night meeting last night in president obama, speaker boehner, majority reid producing no results, came out saying the right things, we believe there's progress to be made. are we headed for a shutdown? >> reporter: when the first sentence includes the words frank and productive and constructive conversation, you know you're in a bit of t...