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Now you have the head legal official in kansas going after people in a similar way. i mean, the demonization, the hatred and the whole thing, it's gone from the fringes into the mainstream. and there are consequences for that, because while those people are not violent themselves, that stuff filters down, and the other parallel in the berg ka is and the tiller case is it affects people who are not emotionally stable. we see this over and over again. the guy who killed berg was not emotionally stable. scott roeder was diagnosed with schizophrenia as a teenager. the guy who shoots gabriel giffor...

Possible way you can, when this is a legal activity being carried out, he uses the resources of the state, uses the people of the state, he takes women's medical records and hides them and scurries them around the state and does whatever he wants with them, after a judge has told him he cannot do that. he's bending the law and that's the point of the whole book. in the order, you have nine guys out in the woods who are fanatic and pretty obviously crazy and have no level of success in our society. now you have the head legal official in kansas going after people in a similar way. i mean, the d...

Attorney general, the highest elected official in the state. using the power of law to go after dr. tiller in every possible way you can, when this is a legal activity being carried out, he uses the resources of the state, uses the people of the state, he takes women's medical records and hides them and scurries them around the state and does whatever he wants with them, after a judge has told him he cannot do that. he's bending the law and that's the point of the whole book. in the order, you have nine guys out in the woods who are fanatic and pretty obviously crazy and have no level of succe...

They are out there. >> you can make that argument. but they are not outside -- i don't think they are too far outside the mainstream of the democratic party as we now see it constituted. >> bill: i disagree with you. i think that the democratic party as it's defined in the middle west, in the south, isn't anywhere -- the people in virginia who voted for barack obama, i don't think are anyone near these people. i think that's what the democratic party is seeing. they are seeing hemorrhaging because people are going we don't want this extreme view. now, let's just bring it back to the vicious st...

They are out there. >> you can make that argument. but they are not outside -- i don't think they are too far outside the mainstream of the democratic party as we now see it constituted. >> bill: i disagree with you. i think that the democratic party as it's defined in the middle west, in the south, isn't anywhere -- the people in virginia who voted for barack obama, i don't think are anyone near these people. i think that's what the democratic party is seeing. they are seeing hemorrhaging because people are going we don't want this extreme view. now, let's just bring it back to the vicious st...