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Their ability. we owe you, tim kudo and adam weinstein, and lawrence thank you for having them on. >> adam, one of my fears about how this has been discussed over the past two weeks, is that in the air, and certainly there has been previously, there has been this month apologizing about the capacities of the american military, and that it is a flawless machine that can do anything. and that there is no reason why it could not have run a perfectly organized an honorable retreat and withdrawal from afghanistan. and that kind of magical thinking, it seems to me, is part of the kind of magical thi...

Never, ever, ever gotten along with each other. >> back with us joe cirincione, tim kudo and adam weinstein. joe, let me begin with you new reaction to what the president had to say about the history of afghanistan and how it relates to where we are tonight. >> those were some strong, honest comments from the president, you may disagree with some of the ways he's been implementing this evacuation, but he's not lying to us. he's telling us the truth, he's explaining it shows the way he sees it, i think accurately. he's getting to the heart of the issue, this was a flawed strategy from the begin...

That the number of people who might want to leave afghanistan now could number in the millions. >> millions of have ghani citizens who are not taliban, who did not actively cooperate with us as as ivs, who have given a chance, they will be able to board a plane tomorrow. >> leading off our discussion tonight, joe cirincione, a national security expert and distinguished fellow at the queens institute for responsible state graft, tim kudo, former marine captain who served in iraq and afghanistan, and adam weinstein, a former marine who served in afghanistan, he is now a research fellow at the qu...

And remake those societies. it is simply a crazy proposition. and i know that when you talk to the average american, and you ask them, do you think it is normal to stay in a country militarily for 20 years, the answer is almost always know. >> adam weinstein, well joe cirincione, tim kudo thank you all very much for joining us on this very important night. >> >> thank you. >> coming up at this very hour tonight, the texas state house is debating the latest addition of the republican bill that restricts voters rights in that state. texas congressman and former election law lawyer colin allred w...

We are going to be getting through this in a contentious way, with republicans trying to make the most of it. >> that is one of the saddest things about this. in a time when we should be mourning together, expressing our sympathies together, we see this caught up in the mall of this disinformation, partisan hyper attack mode that is washington these days. and it is used to call for resignations. as hr mcmaster did, said this is just a matter of political will, and say that joe biden doesn't have the manliness to go after them and spread the disinformation they have been spreading today. it is ...