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Team, not want to testify? be hesitant? >> well, when ken starr testified in the clinton investigation before congress, it was so politically charged that his ethics adviser sam dash well-known from water game fame quit in protest over starr's testimony. we saw political wrangling with patrick fitzgerald who investigated special counsel valerie plame unnaming. and i think mueller doesn't want to get in that same soup with these guys, letting his report speak for itself. so i think that is his mindset. i don't need this trouble. my report is comprehensive. there is nothing more that i could add...

Impeached. >> reporter: now you hear that divide playing out among democrats. but those democrats becoming more open to opening up the door to impeachment and putting considerable pressure on nancy pelosi and house democratic leadership. of course you said they are going to convene a caucus-wide meeting tomorrow morning and most certainly this will come up and a re-set button as the fairive for house leadership has taken away from themselves this week. pelosi behind closed doors in meetings this week, emphasizing to stay the course and be deliberate and focus on investigations and oversight, b...

Mr. mueller isn't happy with the way this is handled. so i don't agree that the -- the mueller report should peek for itself. that is not possible. seeing what happened to james comey and knowing the history that michael just explained, mr. mueller does not want to become a political player. on the other hand he must feel disappointed on the fact the report has not led to more discussions about obstruction of justice. he was not have written that report, it is my reading, the way he did if he didn't want to be the beginning of a conversation about obstruction and not the end. >> i want to hear...

Very fast. number two, they should be very precise about what they want to know and number three, i disagree with michael there is something mr. mueller can say and only he could say. he should testify about his discussions with bill barr and his expectations about what bill barr would do. he doesn't have to talk about the investigation. we need to hear that from him. >> and i think that is the exact political point that he doesn't want to engage in. >> yep, yep. michael and tim, thank you both very much. >> thank you. across the country today, we've seen protests against restrictive abortio...