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Was still there. 8:48 delivered. and it was right after the pizza arrived. i would say i was there another 10, maybe 15 minutes. why do you tell cops 7:30? i m horrible at times and days and the problem was is that making a mistake became a i m hiding something. cops call your mistake a lie? of course. why did you lie about the times? you were there at least 8:30 to 9:30. it s impossible. no, pizza man keeps a receipt, keeps track. tim had been tripped up by his own statements. detective holbrooke said the suspect knew the charade was over. he put his face in his hands, he literally covered his face for two or three minutes. tim ultimately looked up at us and the car salesman guy that we knew as tim permenter completely left the room. what did you see in his eyes, in his face? the first thing i thought was satan just walked in the room. coming up. i knew i was innocent. was he? juries like to see forensics. right. dna, the blood samples and they di ....
is she breathing? i don t know. tim was inconsolable during that 911 call, and later would tell detectives he had lost the love of his life, the woman he was hoping to marry. but the people who knew karen best started telling police a very different story. i m not sure why she stayed in that relationship or began a relationship like that. the relationship began with tim trying to sell karen a new car. police learned he sold her a bill of goods about himself, saying he had been a navy s.e.a.l., involved in top secret missions, never mentioned the sordid truth about his criminal past. karen told me he explained the scars as he got on a mission. super commando stuff? i think that was his impression of himself. why are you lying to her? giving her a crock? there s really no excuse for it, other than if you re an inmate or a convicted felon, no matter how good you do, no ....
And he turned into not a very nice guy. he was a little creepy. he was tough on her? there were some unexplained bruises. i used to tell her, what are you doing? he did not deserve her. she wouldn t listen. the fights got worse and police were called three separate times to intervene. one time roc allegedly broke down the front door. that was the last straw. karen filed a domestic battery complaint and roc moved out. tim says even a year later, he was still harassing karen about a rolltop desk he left behind. she was starting to get scared of him towards the end. the issue he had was i got a valuable piece of furniture, i want it back. right. but karen said that that was a ruse. trying to worm his way back in? is that the way she saw it? that s the way she put it to me. they knew they had to confront this roc, so they tracked him down and paid a surprise visit. he wasn t happy to see them. i m in the garage of my home in north port, florida. ....
for him. and then tim s timeline, his alibi took another hit. he first said he was home when he called his friend george after 9:30. detective nelvin found evidence proving otherwise. once we get the phone records back and the cell tower site locations back, we are putting him at her house. so the tower is catching him in a lie? absolutely. his 911 phone call in the morning, it hits off the same tower he was hitting off when he called george at 9:36 the night before, which is directly north of karen pannell s house. they could only think of one reason for him to lie about those times. it was that karen s car guy was the killer. they brought him to headquarters again, this time for an official and much more aggressive interrogation. he gave the same timeline as he gave previously. we went through it with him. and he held true with what he told us. at that point we started attacking his story. ....
Forensic evidence to show that his client was that person. in order to buy the state s case, you have to make assumption upon assumption upon assumption. that s not what our system is about. how did i do it? how on earth did not one single drop of blood get on my clothing, anything like that? or in your car, which was ripped apart. right. that s why i agreed to let them look. get what you want, because i knew i was innocent. the defense also tore into the credibility of the state s star witness, george solomon, saying it was ridiculous to think tim would get an invitation to spend the night with him after blurting out a murder confession. hey, i killed somebody. just now, or whatever. oh, really? oh, okay, well, come on, let s go see my wife and kids. no way. a confident tim permentor decided to speak directly to the jury. he took the stand in his own ....