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A.m. the hour when the plane hit the first tower and that will go on for the better part of four hours and president biden is going to participate in the event somehow here. and in years past, because of the covid, it did not happen, but this year, it is the full blown event and it is going to be powerful and moving, and it is going to be again, perhaps the biggest moment ever here at ground zero. geoff. >> nbc's ron allen, thank you for that. with us is former congressman and former 9/11 commissioner ambassador tim roamer, and i wanted to start with this, because in your hometown newspaper, y...

Sea, and where can we cooperate with china and where do we need to fiercely compete with them and not create a new cold war. these are some of the challenges that the united states has to start thinking about and formulate a different strategy than we did coming out of 9/11 for the next 20 years. >> former congressman tim romer, thank you for your time this afternoon, ambassador, and thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> you stay well, and stay with us as we mark 20 years since the september 11th attacks. later this hour, i am going to be joined by don marshall whose wife...

Closed doors today and tomorrow we will hear more about trump organization activities and those hush money payments and what the president did and did not do. >> i think that is fascinating information that you are getting from cummings. great reporting. thank you so much. joining me right now cnn political commentator, mia love, tim roamer, former democratic congressman from the great state of indiana. and also cnn legal analyst jennifer rogers, former federal prosecutor with the southern district of new york. can i just start with what elijah cummings said, that he has been consulting with s...

With a "b." spent on the presidential and congressional races combined. joining me now are two former congressmen, and current members of issue one, an organization focused on reducing the role of money in politics. democrat tim roamer and zack watts from tennessee. thank you both for joining us. >> happy to be here. >> congressman watts, i'll start with you. being out of office now, how much power do you think you really have to create change on this issue? >> tim and i co-chair a national organization which is the reformers caucus of issue one. over 180 former members of congress have joined...

>> worried that ellison was going to win and go oh no, who's the most acceptable progressive we could support? >> he is not -- >> there's no difference. >> if rudy giuliani's campaign in 2008 signalled the death of the middle of the republican -- oh, he'll just run out the middle -- >> the moderate republican. >> there's no john bro figure. no tim roamer, no new democrat, it's left and left left. which shows you where they are right now. >> which is my point. could we go back to clinton far second. what i saw was someone that probably will be running for president in 2020 or keeping her option...