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Redacted. why would flynn law about sanctions in his talks? >> why did he lie about his conversations? he could have called him and say i want to remind you, sergei, our government will be in power january 20th. we'll be in power. why he chose to go farther than that and lie about it leads me to wonder why was he lying. i still don't know the answer from that question. >> there are three sources that are saying they are familiar with this probe and say mueller is zeroing in on the sanctions issue and what the kremlin would hope to get in return. moments ago we got from from the washington post...

Spent several years trying to get an investigation, spent tens of millions of dollars on benghazi and came up with nothing. in a fraction of that time mueller has come up with upwards of 30 indictments. i think that is an interesting dynamic to these hearings. >> so, mieke, do you think that's a fair argument, a fair point, a fairway of looking at this? >> yeah, i think that that's right. that chairman gowdy on the benghazi hearings was going after something where there was no there-there. however, with special counsel mueller, he has spent his time looking for things and he has come up with a...

And it's a waste of everyone's time, a bunch of bantam weights getting in the ring with a heavy weight. >> these days in washington, lawyers have lawyers. so, jim comey has a lawyer who went on this network and said the following. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> what's really interesting, you have congressman gowdy who spent several years trying to get an investigation, spent tens of millions of dollars on benghazi and came up with nothing. in a fraction of that time mueller has come up with upwards of 30 indictments. i think that is an interesting dynamic to these hearings. >> so, m...

Testimony or that investigation, two things to note. one, it's ongoing, so there is really not much he can say about it because whether in private or in public, the transcript of this private hearing will be made public. and, two, he's been gone for more than 18 months. so if you want to know what's going on in the election interference investigation, don't ask jim comey. ask folks who are at the fbi right now. this is political posturing. there is nothing to be gained. and it's a waste of everyone's time, a bunch of bantam weights getting in the ring with a heavy weight. >> these days in wash...

In the world. my wonderful mom and pop celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary today. my mom was fresh off the boat from newfoundland and she wore a white mini dress. my dad was a capten in the air force and he wore his uniform. you can't see the wedding picture. that is private. but it was this date at 1968 at the chapel of the presidio in san francisco and today marks a half century for them since then. 50 years. of better and worse, richer and poorer, sickness and health. happy 50th, mom and dad. you're amazing. and with that, now it's tight fime for the last word with ari melber sitting i...