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Course, there are irs lawyers consulting in washington. >> he hasn't found -- correct me if i'm wrong. has he found a witness within the irs that says i got influence by somebody outside the irs? >> not that he's put out. >> wouldn't he have done that, if he had? >> well, yeah. the piece i wrote is basically based on the fact he said he was going to release these transcripts. he hasn't. the guy pushing him to do it is the top democrat on the committee, cummings. >> i want to show you the timeline issa's behavior and behavior around him all along and they said what do you think is still left in...

The irs? >> not that he's put out. >> won't he have done that? >> the piece i wrote is basically based on the fact he said he was going to release these transcripts. he hasn't. the guy pushing him to do it is the top democrat on the committee cummings. >> i want to show you the timeline issa's behavior and behavior around him all along and they said what do you think is still left in his ammo? june 2nd, you just saw that he released extremely limited pieces of a set of interviews and calls the white house paid liars. he says the full transcripts which he vows to release will prove that washing...

Picture from the white house pushing a button, making a call and ordering this up from the irs. >> josh? >> well, the salient debate here, i think issa is trying to conflate two things. the idea that the scandal originated in washington, either under orders from somebody at the irs or the white house with the fact that as nick just said, of course there are irs lawyers consulting in washington. >> but he hasn't found -- correct me, has he found a witness within the irs that says i got influenced by somebody outside the irs? >> not that he's put out. >> wouldn't he have done that? >> well, yeah...