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Violations. what is going on here? >> you know, i don't know. that certainly would not have happened at a mine where the workers were represented by a union. we have local union safety committees that make sure that issues like high methane levels, coal dust accumulations, ventilation problems. if something like that's going on at a union-represented mine like it was going on at this mind, likelihood is we would have withdrawn from work. >> what's the next move? what can come out of this investigation? >> well, i think we need to -- the first and foremost find out exactly what happened here. f...