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Them, that he was unraveling. while the president conducts his own hunt for the author of the new york times op-ed, one white house official told "politico," if the goal was to moderate trump's behavior, it will do the opposite. here is former cia director john brennan on donald trump's state of mind. >> i think you see just a continual sort of increase in the concern, the extraordinary measures that people are taking. i do think things will get worse before they get better. i don't know how donald trump is going to react to this. a wounded lion is a very dangerous animal. and i think donald t...

Unelected deep state operatives who deny the voters to push their own secret agendas are truly a threat to democracy itself. >> so tim o'brian, there is a peek inside the mind of donald trump tonight. it is too bad he did not rehearse the pronunciation anonymous which will come up a lot for a while. there is the inspector clue sew at work. he says -- the times referred to it as a he. he said nobody knows who the hell he is or she. although they put he. that's probably a little disguise. that means it's she. okay. so he's got it blocked down to she. and then in the next sentence he says, "the n...

Around talking and the back story on these particular tapes in this situation was, you know, they were in between shots and the president was commenting very openly and very freely. and, so -- and we know the president does that. we've seen him do that. we have heard him do that. he's gotten in trouble before in doing that. so i think back in the recesses of his mind he's hoping the camera wasn't rolling, but probably believes in the end it was. and that's why you see the kind of concern in the tapes and in the tweets that he's putting out right now. >> tim, it is donald trump's case here toni...

Dan coats, we are living with the cruelty of malice and incompetence of the trump administration. they are all omarosa. donald trump is omarosa. and every one working for him in that white house is omarosa. when we come back, after this break, we'll be joined by michael steel and tim o'brian who will consider what all of this means not for omarosa but for all of the other omarosas still working in the white house very much including donald trump.

I'm loathed to say there is one thing to say there is one thing to take the president down. both of them have credibility issues. what you have in a reality television president is all these cast of characters that kind of have their personalities and have their own agendas. and for president trump, because he has his own credible issues, there is not a way to 100% say omarosa clearly is wrong and she never heard that, especially because she says there will be other tapes coming out. that could be devastating. >> tim o'brian, you are i think the only one among us who has had conversations with...