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Sucked down into it. to people who are hoping for the sort of demise and ultimate discrediting of these people, and this delusion that they've been promoting for fun and profit. this sort of internet science squabbling, is delicious, right? >> but there is a substantive question here. if what we are seeing is a fracturing going on in the far far right of the trump supporting world. right? so many of the people the january 6th attack were qanon adherence or qanon partners or qanon koreans. so many people who have turned up in the darkest corners of the trump supporting world have tracked this q...

>> steve: you are busy watching if you are watching the major media you wouldn't know about thempt we are talking about solyndra and the rise of food stamps and key stone pipe line. so why are the media playing down big stories and why does it have anything to do with their afor the president of the united states? we'll talk to karl rove and joe joe trippi. good to know that you are on the bacon diet. >> yes. good bacon. >> steve: no kidding tis delicious. what are they thinking. we are not hear negligent main stream media things that are not helpful for the president.

>> what the lobbyists want, what wall street wants, they want etch a sketch senators. they want the ones who will clear the screen and change their minds to do whatever big money tells them to do. >> i guess that's trickle down politics. anyway, enough of that. up next, my colleague rachel maddow will be here in a moment. she argues in her brilliant new book "drift," that it's easier to go to war in this country because they make it nicer to go to war. not for the people fighting it. you're watching "hardball." is delicious, and earned this heart, for being heart healthy. ♪ feel the beat? it...