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9/11 through the 9/11 commission and i.c.e. became immigration special agents. that's the only difference was d the name. they go through the same school, they enforce title 8. i like to know who he thinks will enforce title 8. all the agents learn how to enforce it. >> he's counting on self-deportation. they mock the idea until their premise is built on it. you say focus targets is what i.c.e. is about. >> look, we only have 20,000, at most, i.c.e. agents throughout the united states. we have 11 million people we might be looking for. that's a small number. we have to concentrate on the most ...

>> bill: "impa >> bill: "impact segment" segment tonight. the sanctuary city controversy getting hotter. today, mayors from all over thev country met today. joining us now from washington, kelly cohen, who was there. what is the headline of the meeting, kelly? >> so the headline was about less than ten mayors from the so-called sanctuary cities. they met with the department of homeland security chiefnt john kelly to say, we are not breaking federal law. you can't take away federal funds from us. as we know, with the executive order in january, that was onede of the threats, and attorney genera...

Things going on out there, we don't want to come up on some arsenal where they are prepared and seriously injure or kill any of our law enforcement people, never mind the crimes these people would get away with going down the road if she creates this -- o >> bill: yeah, if she lets them get away. in your experience, i.c.e. is targeting criminals, not gardeners and house painters, right? >> no question about it. >> bill: so, ms. dubois will say, i am looking out for the poor chambermaids who don't deserve to be scrutinized. that is what she will say. now, you pointed to -- i made reference to t...

>> well, i don't think i could say it without getting beeped. he's incompetent. he has an attitude that if you're in the country illegally, you're perfectly allowed to not only be here but to commit crime. right now, everybody in san francisco is pointing fingers, so he's pointing fingers at the mayor, the mayor is pointing fingers at him. they're all guilty. they all belong in jail. they've all violated the law and they should all be locked up. >> don, what law has he violated? >> well, obstruction of justice for one. title 8, section 1324 of the federal code deals with aiding and abetting il...