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Feels like he's isolated. as a result, he's kind of taking the steps he needs to take to try to ensure he can get the best outcome for his legal issues. >> the dilemma here is what trump -- the problem trump has is obstruction. because if he now pardons cohen, everybody knows 100 tapes out there and know about the tape initially with the payment to mcdougal. >> is that putting the cart ahead of the horse or whatever the phrase is? lanny davis says they are not looking for a pardon. >> that's what they are saying but it looks like cohen -- >> yeah, i think you're trying to jump in there. you wr...

They want trade. they don't want handouts. they want trade. i think this is a very slippery slope because once you start handing people money, you're going to have other people with their hand out. i've been told there's like 42,000 requests for exemptions pending in the commerce department now. if they don't get those, are they also going to say we need help? i also think it creates a problem with the wto if we start sub sid zi subsidizing folks. >> i've got to ask you with the fre supreme court nominee. let me ask you this. democrats want him to hand over every document related to his past e...