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We've seen out in the country over the last few months especially, is that right wing is really getting good at mobilizing people and at a county level, a city level, a town level, a school board level, and they're closing all kinds of governmental chaos as they do this. so for people who care about good governance, it's time to wake up. it's time to say it's not good enough to just vote in a presidential election. i've also got a pay attention to what's happening in my city council. i've gotta pay attention to whose -- judges. who's writing for the school board. that's with the sequim people ...

Coalition in american life that is essentially pro democracy. it has a huge wide ideological spectrum from liz cheney to chomsky. in this case you had people that were republicans and conservatives who have different views on a number of things who would kind of come together on this fundamental believe that these people were extremists and not invested in good governance at this time. >> that's right. you've seen dr. alison. variations this wonderful public health official. she's put a lot of time into trying to ensure -- the pandemic. the qanon folk and the right-wing folk out there were cal...