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Five years later, he made the confession again on fox news, prompting a second investigation. >> did you find the suspected taliban bomb maker? >> we did capture a fighter and then i.d. material, weapons. we recovered radios that the taliban were using. so quite a bit of material. >> but at the time, you think this is the guy. >> yeah, absolutely. it is an inevitable outcome that people who are cooperating with the coalition forces, when identified, will suffer terrible torture or be killed. >> did you kill the taliban bomb maker? >> yes. >> last week the army charged goldstein with murder. he...

Attorney, phillip stackhouse, are with me now. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> julie, let me start with matt, your husband. graduated from west point. goes on to become this elite green beret, awarded the nation's third-highest award for valor. what did serving this country mean for your husband? >> i think it meant everything to him. when people thank him for his service now, matt says it was a great honor. and i would have done it for free. >> hmmm. let's go back through all of this and phillip, i turn to you for this. so let's go back to 2010. major goldstein was command...

>> i understand. but did goldstein understand at the time -- obviously, he knows the rules of engagement. you know, why did he pull the trigger, if he knew what he was doing was illegal? >> so you imply that he knew what he was doing was illegal or what he did was illegal. >> i'm asking you, was he aware. >> right. he was aware of the rules of engagement. he exercised his discretion as a ground commander in afghanistan. controlling essentially the bottom third of marja during combat operations, highly kinetic combat operations. >> i understand. >> he affected an ambush that killed someone. >> ...

Though, he says that he stands by what he says happened in this, that tillerson got a call from white house chief of staff kelly on friday, indicating that there was something coming, that there was a change brewing, that there would likely be a tweet. but tillerson, according to goldstein, said that it wasn't really definitive that he was going to be losing his job and then it did indeed come as a surprise today via that tweet. when i asked goldstein, well, do you think, then, that the white house isn't quite telling the truth about the timeline? he says he only knows what tillerson told him ...