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Disparities and wealth disparities between black and white. and one other point i'll take here is that in addition to hbcus producing an outsized share of black college graduates, they also have an outsized impact on the fortune of those graduates, so when the report looked at the likelihood of people skipping from the bottom 20% to the top 20% of the income distribution, there were a bunch of black colleges that were more likely to send their students in that direction to better financial fortune than there were for institutions that had much higher profiles. >> that's very interesting, and i...

Look at the founding of hbcus in the late 1800s to early 1900s and the civil rights act of 1964. this means that hbcus spent their first 80 to 50 years under jim crow laws, most of them in the south. so there was legal discrimination that was going on in a good portion of hbcus existence. so it adds a compounding effect to things that happen today, in terms of alumni support, philanthropic support, state appropriations, grants and contracts, all of these are areas where hbcus are not performing to the capacity they should be and we need a collective effort to look at all of these different dim...

You served as obama's executive director on hbcus. why are hbcus so typically underfunded? >> this is a very exciting time to be at an hbcu. i started my clear in louisiana in 2002 and i've been at howard university for the last 16 years and i remember when i came to an hbcu, there was also a question of, are hbcus still relevant and that used to irk me so bad. i always said we can't be in a posture of trying to defend our relevance, we have to assert our excellence. i think the nation is starting to understand that there's a value proposition in hbcus, that the output from white institutions ...

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Won because there wouldn't have been any reason for outside forces to come in and support shontel brown. >> i don't feel like this conversation is over. we'll continue this on ig live. please don't be late. and eric, thank you so much for joining us. and don't go anywhere, because after the break hbcus, black colleges and universities, are paving the way for students to get their degree without financial headaches. we're going to dig into it coming up next. but with my hiv treatment, there's not more medicines in my pill. i talked to my doctor and switched to fewer medicines with dovato. dovat...